Abstract
Atlantic Europe populations were analyzed with HLA genes in order to establish their relationship among themselves and with other populations. Standard genetic and statistical software analyses were used. Celtic populations (British Isles and French Bretons) have genetically been found close together: Irish, Welsh, Orkney Islanders (Scottish), French Bretons, Galicians, Spanish Basques, Portuguese, cluster together in DA genetic distances, correspondence analysis and Neighbour Joining dendrograms. Genetics have been shown by itself not suffice to determine populations migration/relatedness. Aristotle and Herodotus placed Celts in Iberia and R1b chromosome Y marker is high in Iberia and all Celtic European populations above mentioned (probably stemming from Iberian Ice refugee after Last Glaciation) and Ancient Celt language (Gaelic) is being translated from Iberian-Tartesian language: these suggest that Celts and Iberians, so named by Classic authors, constitute the same population. On the other hand, a) R1b gene analysis of Canary Islands ancient inhabitants (Guanches), b) abundant Iberian scripts are also found in Canary Islands, c) a established North Africa/Iberia ancient gene flow, and d) no evidence of demic diffusion from eastern to western Mediterranean according to human ancient skeleton studies is noticed in Mesolithic/Neolithic transition: these facts suggest that ancient Canary Islanders may be included within the Iberian/Celtic population. Our conclusions are that: 1) Celts are concentrated in Atlantic Europe, 2) Iberians and Celts mentioned by classic authors most probably refer to the same population living in Iberian Peninsula (Spain/Portugal); in addition, North African Berbers and ancient Canary Islanders also belong to this group 3) Postulated farmers demic diffusion in a East to West Mediterranean direction never existed.
Keywords: Celts, Iberians, Picts, Scottish, Orkney Islands, Irish, British (English), French Bretons, Welsh, Basques, Galicians, Canary Islands, Mediterranean demic diffusion, Gaelic language
Saturday, 9. September 2017
???!!! “celts”, celts”, “celts”, “celtic”, “celtic”, …and more “celts”…???!!!
It seems that The World, The Creation, Populations/nations of Earth are “celts”…what a stupid, idiotic, inbecil Dark agenda is this “celtic” agenda of the anglo-Zionist present evil empire!!!
“celts” are nothing but agenda of Lies to the anglo-zionists(conscious or unconscious…) and a PHANTASY to the Masses!!!
« Celtic ‘is a magic bag, into which anything may be put, and out of which almost anything may come . . . Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien »
WE, Conii-Lusitanians(Portuguese), Basques of Hiberian Peninsula, are The Proto-Hiberians, the Origin of Races and Languages.
WE have nothing to do with “celts”!
IF “celts”(in the stupid and unreal sense it is promoted everywhere in the web ) existed ,
they would be OUR descendents.Not the contrary!
« http://rustaveli.tripod.com/mission.html
Zviad Gamsakhurdia
THE SPIRITUAL MISSION OF GEORGIA
A LECTURE DELIVERED AT THE IDRIART FESTIVAL IN TBILISI PHILHARMONIC HOUSE
2 MAY, 1990
« … To begin with, Humboldt’s research into the Basque language and the ancient population of the Iberian peninsula led him to the conclusion that the primary, autochthonous population of Southern Europe, viz. the Iberian peninsula, Italy, and the Mediterranean islands, was Iberian. This population was called proto-Iberian, the later European population stemming from it. The term Mediterranean race (or people) is also used in scholarship. In order to refer to the people of the Caucasian race use is also made of the terms paleo-Caucasian or ancient Caucasian race and ancient-Mediterranean race, the terms being interchangeable. I am referring to the population diffused from the Iberian peninsula, into the Mediterranean and Aegean basins, the Balkans, into modern Greece, the Caucasus, and the territory of modern India as well as into Asia Minor and Palestine. This is the area of diffusion of the proto-Iberian people which, according to Humboldt, had many offshoots. These people had a single basic language with many dialectal branches, and even if these di-alects assumed the character of separate languages, they remained kindred and developed as mutually related languages. That is why the term proto-Iberian gained currency, to which – as I have just said – the an-cient population of the Iberian peninsula and Italy, in particular, BASQUE, LUSITANIAN(Center-North of Present Portugal),ETRUSCAN,PELASGIAN(CONII from South of Present Portugal) etc. is linked. Further, Marr studied the language of the Sumerians, the ancient Iberian tribes of Asia Minor and Mesopotamia, while the eminent Georgian scholar Mikheil Tsereteli re-searched the genetic relationship of Sumerian and modern Georgian.
Marr’s studies, as well as those carried out by objective representa-tives of Armenian scholars (e.g. Ghapantsian), have shown that a con-siderable part of the Asia Minor population belonged to the proto-Iberian race, represented by the Meskhians or Moschoi, Cappadocians, Colchi-ans, … »
«… Para começar, a pesquisa de Humboldt na Língua Basca e na antiga população da Península Hibérica, levou-o a concluir que a população primária e autóctone do Sul da Europa, a sabêr, a Península Hibérica, a Itália e as Ilhas do Mediterrâneo, era tôda Hibérica.
Esta população foi chamada de Proto-Hibérica, tendo-se a população Europeia posteriôr originado dela.
O têrmo Raça Mediterrânica (ou Pôvo) também é utilizado nos meios académicos.
De modo a que nos possamos referir às pessoas da Raça Caucasiana, também se utilizam as designações de Paleo-Caucasiano ou Raça Caucasiana Antiga, e Raça Antiga-Mediterrânica, sendo os têrmos intercambiáveis.
Refiro-me à população que saída da Península Hibérica, se espalhou pelas bacias do Mediterrâneo e do Egeu, dos Balcãs, da Grécia moderna, do Cáucaso e do território da Índia moderna, bem como pela Ásia Menor e Palestina.
Esta é a área de difusão do Pôvo Proto-Hibérico que, de acôrdo com Humboldt, tinha muitos ramos.
Essas pessôas tinham uma Única Língua Essencial, com vários dialectos, e mêsmo que êsses dialectos tivessem assumido o caractér de línguas independentes, permanecêram no entanto línguas irmãs que se fôram desenvolvendo como línguas mútuamente relacionadas.
Foi por isso mêsmo que a designação Proto-Hibérico se tornou usual, designação á qual – como já disse – a população Ancestral da Península Hibérica (e da Itália) , em particular, a Basca, a Lusitâna (Centro-Norte de Portugal actual), a Etrusca, a Pelasga (os Conii do Sul de Portugal actual, Alentejo e Algarve) etc. se encontra ligada.
Além disso, Marr estudou a língua dos Sumérios, as ancestrais tribos Hibéricas da Ásia Menor e da Mesopotâmia, enquanto que o eminente estudioso georgiano Mikheil Tsereteli aprofundou a relação genética entre os Sumérios e os Georgia nos modernos.
Os estudos de Marr, bem como tôdos os que fôram levados a cabo por estudiosos Arménios idóneos , tal como Ghapantsian, mostraram que uma parte considerável da população da Ásia Menor pertencia à raça Proto-Hibérica, representada pelos Meskhian(o)s ou Moschoi, Cappadocians/Capadócios, Colchi-ans/Colchianos, … »
Monday, 11. September 2017
It is of fundamental importance that language and race are kept separate.
The term, “Celtic”, is a language designation. It has nothing to do with genetics. There are Celtic languages, there is no Celtic race.
What is quite dangerous is that in the north-west corner of Europe it is widely assumed by the partially educated that there is a genetically distinct Celtic race, though most of those who believe themselves to have Celtic genes actually speak English.
Tolkien was referring to the lazy assumption that everything that is ancient is Celtic. Your average man in the street assumes that the henge monuments, the monoliths, the barrows, etc, were built by Celts, and that any pre-English hydronym or oronym must be Celtic.
However, the onomastic and archaeological evidence shows that Celtic languages were brought to the British Isles from France and Belgium around 500BC, and that much of Britain’s hydronymy is British Vasconic, not Celtic.
The presence of a handful of British Vasconic loanwords in English (but not other Germanic languages) indicates that British Vasconic survived both the Celtic and Roman occupations, at least in some places, and was replaced by English, not Celtic.
If we look at the Celtic place-names of Wales and Cornwall, we discover that they are invariably post-Roman (often referring to churches), and speak of a colonial reordering of the landscape similar to that achieved by the Anglo-Saxons.
Friday, 15. December 2017
Angus J. Huck , there’s no “celt language” in Cónii-Luso-Galician territory, present PortuGal.There’s no “Iberian-Tartesian language” as said in the above text.
There’s only CÓNII Language,found 98% in South of Portugal , Alentejo and Algarve.The “tartessian empire” is an Historical manipulation invented by our neighbours, the Castillians, a Spanish magic bag like the “celts”…
The so called “tartessian empire”,was just part of the Atlantean CÓNII Kingdom, which Capital and political center was in Conistorgis, present Alentejo, South of Portugal, near the Guadiana River.
Wednesday, 18. September 2024
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